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HOME/MY FIRST MILLION/How Gary Vee runs 7 businesses
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MY FIRST MILLION

How Gary Vee runs 7 businesses

DATE May 19, 2026SOURCE MY FIRST MILLIONPARTICIPANTS GARY VEE, SAM PARR, SHAAN PURI
// KEY TAKEAWAYS3 ITEMS
  1. 01Relationships as the Highest-ROI Business Investment
  2. 02The "Family Business" Model for Operating Multiple Companies
  3. 03The Individual as the Next Fortune 500
In this episode

My First Million | Gary Vee, Sam Parr, Shaan Puri


1. Key Themes

Relationships as the Highest-ROI Business Investment

Gary has built an entire infrastructure around relationship-building — a VP of Relationships (Nick Dio) who travels the world hosting dinners and connecting people with zero transactional expectation, plus three full-time employees at VaynerX dedicated to hosting emerging influencers. The thesis is that doing genuine good for people without expecting returns is paradoxically the highest-yield, lowest-risk activity in business.

"Doing good things for people is literally the highest ROI and lowest risk thing. And most people think it's the highest risk thing because when they're doing something good, they're not doing something good, they're doing something calculated with the expectation or at least minimally the hope that something comes back to them." - Gary Vee 00:08:29

"I have three full-time employees at VaynerX who host influencers that are emerging to walk through the office and meet brand deal teams to maybe get them brand deals on pure karma." - Gary Vee 00:08:11

The "Family Business" Model for Operating Multiple Companies

Gary's ability to run 7+ eight-figure businesses simultaneously is not primarily about time management — it's about converting long-tenured employees (7-12 years) into co-founders of new ventures. These are people who know him deeply, share his values, and operate with family-level trust, dramatically reducing the oversight tax on Gary.

"When I do things on a net new business, the person is my family member. It's family business. We know everything about each other. It's seven to 10 years before we decided to do X, Y, and Z. They roll differently than a lot of people trying it. With net new people, they hire randomly." - Gary Vee 00:24:26

"Every company requires three or four family members for it to really work the way it works for me because you got to have a backup and a backup and a backup." - Gary Vee 00:27:31

The Individual as the Next Fortune 500

Gary is writing a book called The Individual Empire and argues that AI, blockchain, decentralization of Hollywood/Madison Avenue/Wall Street are converging to make human-brand organizations the most valuable companies in the world — and that the creator-entrepreneur is the new institutional player.

"My belief with AI, blockchain, evolving social, decentralization of Hollywood and Madison Avenue and Wall Street, that the biggest companies in the world are human-based organizations where the human either has a partner that could operate or they're a me where they can be both." - Gary Vee 00:20:51


2. Contrarian Perspectives

Kind Candor Over Niceness: Being Too Nice Is Catastrophically Bad for Business

Most people think being a generous, positive leader is a virtue. Gary argues it masked one of the worst CEO failure modes — an inability to give honest feedback — which destroyed relationships with employees he genuinely cared about. He held negative feedback for 18 months, then fired people without warning, and then blamed them for being blindsided.

"I thought everybody was rolling with me with lack of fear. But that many of my company were scared because they didn't know where they stood with me because I was unable to do candor... I've been sitting on this for a year and a half. Back to you, you blame Sam... And then I would blame you." - Gary Vee 00:13:07

"I've been a dramatically better CEO the last three, four years where I've cleaned up my candor... candor a lot of times is used as an excuse to be a dick face and suppress people. And so we had to put that word kind in front of it." - Gary Vee 00:16:41

Live Shopping Will Be 10-15% of All Commerce in 6-10 Years

Most people still view live shopping as a niche or gimmick, primarily associated with Chinese platforms. Gary's assertion — without hedging — is that live shopping's impact on e-commerce mirrors what e-commerce did to brick-and-mortar retail, and it will represent 10-15% of all commerce within a decade.

"What live shopping is doing e-commerce is what e-commerce did to real life... in six to 10 years, live shopping will actually be 10 to 15% of all commerce. And that is scary big." - Gary Vee 00:34:13

Virtual Influencer Agencies Are the CAA of the Future

Most people find virtual/AI influencers creepy or gimmicky today. Gary sees building the IP library of virtual people now — before mainstream acceptance — as the equivalent of owning talent agency infrastructure before Hollywood matured.

"Creating an entire agency of virtual people, right? Knowing right now it's a little weird, but let's survive three to five years and we're going to have the CAA of virtual people. They're all going to be the most famous virtual people and we own it. You're in the IP business, not the representation business." - Gary Vee 00:33:47

Long-Term Greedy Is Not Just Virtuous — It's a Completely Different Game

Most people conflate being generous with being naive or non-commercial. The contrarian reframe from the episode is that long-term greed is a strategic posture, not a moral one — and the most sophisticated operators play it.

"It's just the difference between short-term greedy and long-term greedy... when it's long-term greedy, you're going to play a totally different game than short-term greedy." - Sam Parr quoting Alexis Ohanian 00:10:36

"I probably do everything I'm doing, not to get into a deal in nine years and put a million and make 40 million. More for my daughter has an issue in 19 years in her personal life. And for some reason, Sam's nephew can help her." - Gary Vee 00:11:20


3. Companies Identified

Fly Fish Club NFT-originated private membership restaurant in Manhattan, three stories with a private room. Initially ridiculed as an NFT restaurant gimmick, it is now described as financially viable and visually impressive.

"News alert, everyone. It's crushing. It's called Fly Fish Club." - Gary Vee 00:18:46 "It's a three-story restaurant with a private posse room. Like, it's real." - Gary Vee 00:47:15

Capon's Chop House / VCR Group A steakhouse concept in Bergen County, NJ, built on a "Ruth's Chris 2.0" model but with stronger food execution and a nightlife edge. Gary is planning 50 locations in high-net-worth suburban markets around major cities.

"We're about to open 50 of those in high-network neighborhoods of the biggest cities in the world. We got the model." - Gary Vee 00:47:47 "Our strategy is killer chicken parm... 20% less on that [nightlife] and 20% more on food." - Gary Vee 00:48:49

VFriends Gary's IP/character brand built out of the ashes of the NFT era — now doing $20M+ in revenue via comic books, trading cards, coins, and licensing. Gary views it as a long-duration bet to become a Marvel or Pokémon-level IP.

"VFriends is going to do minimally 20 million in revenue this year in licensing and selling comic books and coins and trading cards... all the ashes of the NFT era that I'm going to get to the other side and be Marvel and Pokemon is going to f*** with everyone so heavy in 15 years." - Gary Vee 00:19:13

VaynerWatt Gary's TV production company, quietly selling shows to Hulu, ABC, and Netflix. Almost entirely under the radar relative to his other ventures.

"I have a very successful TV production company that's kind of brewing right now called VaynerWatt. We have a bunch of shows that have quietly just sold." - Gary Vee 00:20:00

Liquid Death Canned water brand. Gary was the first check in, motivated entirely by loyalty to a former Vayner employee (Mike), not product conviction. Now a massive outcome.

"I literally did it for that reason only. And you know, that's going to be a f***ing money. It was first check in." - Gary Vee 00:38:30

Whatnot Live shopping marketplace Gary has discussed publicly for years but did not invest in. Flagged as a major miss and validation of the live shopping thesis.

"I did not [invest]. I obviously talk about whatnot all the time." - Gary Vee 00:34:43


4. People Identified

Nick Dio, VP of Relationships at VaynerX 12-year Vayner veteran who now travels the world hosting dinners, making connections, and identifying opportunities to give without any ROI mandate. An unusual but high-leverage role.

"Nick Dio is the VP of relationships. He literally goes around the world... I can't be everywhere. And who's got a better job than Nick? Go around the world and listen carefully. If there's something, we could do something for someone for karma. No KPI, no ROI." - Gary Vee 00:03:23

Scott Belsky Investor and operator. Got Gary into Pinterest after he missed the early opportunity. Shaan highlights that Belsky invested in both Uber and Pinterest at ~$3.5M valuations with $25K checks out of $75K in personal savings.

"He invested in, I think Uber and Pinterest in the same couple of weeks, both at a three and a half million dollar valuation... he had like 75 grand in personal savings and I put 25 in each of those companies." - Shaan Puri 00:36:35 "He's better than that even... he's got more wins and he's an operator. He's one of the best." - Gary Vee 00:36:54

Ben Leventhal, Co-founder of Resy Gary was co-founder and inventor of Resy but positioned himself as 1B to Leventhal's 1A — resulting in a "hefty nine-figure exit." Proof of concept for Gary's co-founder model with long-tenured trusted operators.

"People forget that I'm the co-founder and inventor of Resi. But I had Ben Leventhal be the 1A. I was the 1B. And that was a hefty nine-figure exit." - Gary Vee 00:23:59

AJ Vaynerchuk Gary's brother, described as having deep operational and investment instincts — particularly around AI and live shopping — and praised as someone who could name specific names and trends with precision.

"My brother, for example, would answer this epic. He's got his ex so dialed in and he would sit here and talk about AI or live shop. Like he would give you like seven names." - Gary Vee 00:17:35

Alexis Ohanian Reddit co-founder who reframed Sam's event generosity not as altruism but as "long-term greedy" — one of the cleaner conceptual frames in the episode for understanding how top operators think about giving without expectation.

"He goes, it's just the difference between short-term greedy and long-term greedy... one of the beautiful things about Silicon Valley is you learn the virtue of long-term, long-term greedy people." - Sam Parr quoting Alexis Ohanian 00:10:36


5. Operating Insights

The 15-Minute Meeting as a Force Multiplier

Gary runs 60% of his meetings at 15 minutes. His assertion is that most meetings are twice as long as they need to be — and that compressing them is how he effectively gets three days of work done in one. The bottleneck is not time, it's tolerance for inefficiency.

"Everyone's meetings are twice as long as they need to be if they're a winner and they know it." - Gary Vee 00:26:59 "I do think I'm getting three days of work in one day." - Gary Vee 00:27:31

Use AI as a Relationship CRM, Not Just a Productivity Tool

Gary is using OpenAI (specifically, he calls it "OpenClaw" — likely a reference to a custom Claude or GPT setup) as a capture layer for all relationship context — replacing the gaps left by missed chief-of-staff coverage in meetings — and then building agents on top of it to automate relationship maintenance at scale.

"One of the first things I've done with OpenClaw is... I might literally take a photo of this screen sent to my OpenClaw on text. It's mainly for CRM for me right now, relationship crap. And then what's so amazing is once it understands my relationship crap, now I'm just building logic and agents on top of it to like keep me updated on when things are happening." - Gary Vee 00:01:49

The "Boat with Seven Holes" Management Philosophy

Gary explicitly frames multi-business leadership as plugging the most urgent hole at any given time — not treating all businesses equally. The prerequisite is having strong enough lieutenants that the other holes don't sink while you're focused.

"I'm on a boat which has seven holes. And I put my finger in the one that needs it most... and so my ebbs and flows of like, oh shit, Vayner Sports needs me, oh shit, Vayner... but the real reason is because of the 50 people from Ryan Harwood or Kalen or Claude..." - Gary Vee 00:23:30


6. Overlooked Insights

The VaynerX Marketing Machine as a Structural Moat Across All Gary's Businesses

This was mentioned only in passing at the very end, but it's a crucial structural insight: Gary runs a $400M marketing agency (VaynerX), and every other business he starts benefits from world-class marketing infrastructure at near-zero marginal cost. This inverts the normal disadvantage of running low-margin businesses like restaurants and agencies — because the marketing cost that kills most restaurants is essentially free for Gary.

"Don't forget, this is the brilliance of what I think when it's all written. The VaynerX marketing machine impacts all these businesses, right?" - Gary Vee 00:47:47

This means his restaurant group, VFriends, VaynerSports, and Wine Library all get top-tier brand and performance marketing support that competitors simply cannot afford. For investors: any founder who owns a marketing or distribution platform and then vertically integrates consumer brands into it deserves a structural premium.

The Empathy Wines Blueprint: 18 Months, Two Interns, Near-Nine-Figure Exit

This was glossed over in one sentence, but it's an extraordinarily repeatable model: take two long-tenured employees (11 years), co-found a consumer brand leveraging Gary's distribution and brand infrastructure, and sell it to a major acquirer in under two years. Empathy Wines sold to Constellation Brands in 18 months for a "hefty eight-figure" number.

"I had Empathy Wines, two former interns of mine who worked for me for 11 years. And we started Empathy Wines. And in 18 months, sold it for an almost nine-figure, hefty eight-figure deal to Constellation Brands in 18 months." - Gary Vee 00:24:00

The non-obvious implication: Gary is quietly running a talent-to-founder pipeline. Long-tenured employees become co-founders of new ventures backed by Gary's brand, distribution, and capital. He has done it with Resy (nine-figure exit), Empathy Wines (eight-figure exit in 18 months), and is signaling another one coming. This is a repeatable venture model that's entirely hidden inside what looks like an agency business.