Cal Doge

“We've been just looking at the published data on spending to find examples and to make an estimate of the total amount of fraud, waste and abuse in the system. And we've now published four separate fraud reports out of Cal Doge.”

“Our number over the last five years, total, our estimate was $425 billion. So averaged over the years, it's about $80 billion a year. So that's around 20% or so.”