Ara Karazian
Lead Economist at Ramp with unique access to large-scale business spend data on AI and SaaS adoption.
“Seat-based contracts are still about 65, 75% spend, flat platform fees about 20, 30%. Even amongst the companies that have offered some kind of token-based pricing for their SaaS tools, we're only seeing uptake about half a percent of spend on those platforms.”
Source→“SaaSpocalypse as a pronouncement has come way too soon and is typically not informed by actual business behavior.”
Source→“OpenAI and Anthropic have no incentive to offer an auto-routing product that allows you to lower your AI spend. Because they make money on tokens. Anthropic and OpenAI, 80% of their business revenue is token-based.”
Source→“It's those firms specifically that are increasingly shifting some of their AI spend over to platforms like OpenRouter...3% of spend on our platform goes directly through an OpenRouter versus an Anthropic.”
Source→“I don't think 80% of venture-backed companies are using DeepSeek. We did — look, when DeepSeek first came onto the scene...we did see a spike in adoption for DeepSeek. But it never hit even 1% of firms on the platform.”
Source→“We only track paid adoption. So there are a lot of firms that are using Google, but they're using it through Google Workspace, which integrates Gemini for free...Google's definitely underrated. Certainly has a distributional advantage in that it's at all businesses that use Google Workspace.”
Source→“Figma was one of the fastest growing vendors on our platform, that businesses were continuing to buy from it.”
Source→“Perplexity is also one of the fastest growing vendors on Ramp. Seeing a lot of uptakes specifically because it's offering products that the model companies have not competed on yet.”
Source→“Cursor did that with GitHub Copilot...that's the bull case for something like Cursor. Which can compete on the developer experience in that way. In a way that OpenAI and Anthropic, in the absence of Cursor, are not incentivized to do.”
Source→“If their acquisition of Cursor goes through...I think there was a good reason for that acquisition as well. I mean, when you look at what XAI really had available to it, which is this incredible compute power...Acquiring something like Cursor to actually drive some kind of model adoption, I think will be a really good move for XAI.”
Source→“XAI really had available to it, which is this incredible compute power...Acquiring something like Cursor to actually drive some kind of model adoption, I think will be a really good move for XAI.”
Source→“Profound is a new one growing extremely quickly...not a product offered directly by the model companies, and arguably the model companies could never offer that product.”
Source→“Attio is this extremely fast growing London-based CRM...Salesforce is 80% of the market...but Attio is like the AI native alternative.”
Source→“I actually wasn't sure until I got to the Deloitte part why they were doing this advertisement for the other accounting firms. And then I realized, oh, this is an explicit effort by Deloitte to position itself as not anti-AI, but certainly a little bit more conservative about implementation of AI.”
Source→AI-extracted from podcast / newsletter / paper summaries. May contain errors.