Rory O'Driscoll
Rory O'Driscoll is a co-founder and General Partner at Scale Venture Partners, a venture capital firm focused on early-stage enterprise software companies. He has more than 30 years of VC experience and is best known for early investments in SaaS pioneers such as Bill.com, Box, and DocuSign, as well as for recognizing the cloud and AI transitions in enterprise software. He has appeared on the Forbes Midas List and is a prominent voice on enterprise software valuations and the shift from SaaS to AI-enabled business applications.
“He's kind of short-circuited the price discovery process, and instead, we're not doing price discovery, I'm telling you the answer, and the only question is how much of it do you want to buy at that price.”
Source→“He said, well, kind of finding product market fit is just a continuous mission of luck in some ways. And then the execution machine built after that requires no luck at all.”
Source→“Salesforce has $300,000 of revenue per head, which means if they're going to make money, they can't pay anyone more than 200,000. And they're probably spending 1% of revenue per head on tokens... Contrast that with your example of Replit. They're getting 2.3 million per head, but they're probably spending 70% of dollars on tokens.”
Source→“You've got, I think it's Recursive and Poolside, a couple of Reflection and Poolside doing that.”
Source→“That's also why Nubank is such a valuable business. Because the Brazilian banks are inefficient. There's a reason why Chime is worth 5 billion... because the US banks are now a little more efficient.”
Source→“consumers don't want to work. There's not a big market for consumers in their non-working life to do a whole bunch of complex research or kind of using AI for productivity. They just want delightful experiences because they want to relax and attain.”
Source→“What's dominated my Twitter over the last week is Greg Eisenberg's original tweet about a horror story of venture fundraisers. It led to hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of founders sharing horror stories.”
Source→“In January 1st, you could have said, look at all those data centers and you don't have a foundation model. You're screwed. Here we are June 9th and he can say, I have a 24 billion dollar outsource business.”
Source→“Databricks raised a new private round at $165B (up from $134B), explicitly choosing to stay private.”
Source→“They're doing what? Four and a half billion in revenue, you know, 1.5 billion in operating income, which is freaking amazing.”
Source→“Ramp raising their latest round at $44 billion... Tripled in a year, cross a billion in ARR, positive free cash flow.”
Source→“Did Elon have the acquisition of the year buying Cursor for what will be 10 times end of year revenue? Looks a pretty prescient buy if they're going to hit target.”
Source→“Participants: Harry Stebbings (Host), Jason Lemkin (SaaStr founder/investor), Rory O'Driscoll (Scale Venture Partners)”
Source→“If private credit, which is the senior lender to a whole bunch of PE-based deals is struggling... they were at 5x EBITDA leverage, they're worried. Then the PE guys who are from five to 10, in other words, the equity is below the debt in the stack. If the debt's in trouble, the equity is dead.”
Source→“You're probably looking at across those three, four names, including Google, $300 to $400 billion of equity issuance, all of which is really AI related... grabbing big piles of cash while they can.”
Source→“Superbase is the Postgres database. It's just brilliantly co-attached to everything. It's grown quickly too.”
Source→“We actually made an investment in a company Range that does this for kind of the low end of the high-net-worth.”
Source→“Kirkland and Ellis have already won because they said it first. So they got all the publicity and the clients are aware of it. They look great. They look AI forward and they didn't even do something.”
Source→“If you really think it's giving away your secret K&E sauce or your Cooley sauce or your Gunderson sauce, do you really want to let Harvey train on that?”
Source→“If you're not willing to outsource it to Harvey or Ligora, who at least are focused solely on your [vertical] — I don't see large law saying, 'I'm totally fine with doing this on Claude.'”
Source→“The trend here is exponentially increasing costs as you move from simple chat interaction all the way to full-on agents. So even though the cost per token stories are yay, amazing, going down, the actual cost to do something goes up a lot.”
Source→“The OpenRouter one is interesting because going back to what Jason says, if people are spending $300 million on a premium product and having to lay off people as a result of that, there's going to be some interest in exploring cheaper costs.”
Source→“Jensen Wang said this week, on AI CapEx infrastructure spend that we'd reach $3 to $4 trillion by 2030.”
Source→“If you're on this exponential curve that Dario and Sam keep talking about, then the knowledge to be frontier keeps growing every year. And it's just super hard to keep up.”
Source→“It's a fucking stupid statement by Sam, right? It's correlation. It implies causation... compute and a shitty model also equals no revenue. See Grok for details.”
Source→“Rather than say no big deal, who cares at the seed level, Gary's like, no, man, be truthful and precise about your revenue.”
Source→“We have an investment in Unwrap. It's a small company that has customer analysis of customer sentiment. There's a whole bunch of way better AI first products in this space.”
Source→“Rippling growing 70 some odd percent at a billion... I think Rippling is a great story.”
Source→“Google wins whether you use Gemini or whether you use Anthropic now... They have the surplus that they can route between their customers and themselves and others. They win-win here.”
Source→“If you're running one of the foundation model companies and Jason's world is the world you agree is going to happen, then you just make damn sure that you build the agent harness such that the device picking the agents is your device.”
Source→“We have an investment in Unwrap. It's a small company that has customer analysis of customer sentiment.”
Source→“A wave of 2021-era PE deals — Pluralsight, Coupa, New Relic, Anaplan, Cornerstone, and others — face the same terminal pressure: AI erodes durability, growth stalls, and debt becomes unserviceable.”
Source→“Gary's like, no, man, be truthful and precise about your revenue... I think it was simultaneously really good and really shrewd... Y Combinator has a dominant market share in the seed market, 25%.”
Source→“If you're going to add $90 billion in revenue capacity, someone between you and your partners has to find plus or minus $300 billion to buy chips, dig holes in the ground, build data centers.”
Source→“I remember talking to Brad from Altimeter. You can tell there's a guy very dialed into — every position has an exit price. And it's a discipline that you need as a public investor.”
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